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Originally Posted by tomed I'm sorry but it doesn't. The Internet proves that not many people are interested in building standards compliant websites. It doesn't prove that people with a basic knowledge are not capable of doing it. |
What?! As I said already I think we have very different feelings on what we are considering basic here?
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Originally Posted by tomed A common misconception between many people is that you need a standards compliant website to be accessible, this is not true at all. You can have an accessible website without being standards compliant. |
True. But why not use the guidelines that are there? That the applications that are built to aid accessibility use to base their products on?
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Originally Posted by tomed It's an interesting point you make about "not to exclude anyone" - Accessiblity is about "access for all" - now go explain to people who use old computers, with old browsers why they won't have access to your website. |
Its all about percentages. and specifically demographics. For my website, or any website that I am involved in, very few people read or connect to it using a browser older than IE6. In fact I think it was less than 1% the last time I checked. However with 7% of internet users using some form of accessibility aid - this is a large percentage to ignore.
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Originally Posted by tomed WAI 1 is way too restrictive and WAI 2 are proof of that. WCAG 2 will be more like section 508 which is a more practical and common sense approach. No longer will it revolve around code, but whether it actually works or not. |
Excellent. However at the minute we can only work with what we have.
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Originally Posted by tomed It still takes longer than doing it the old fashioned way. |
What exactly is the old fashioned way that is so much quicker than then current methods?
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Originally Posted by tomed Oh I would disagree that "every single new building" has accessible options. I'll give you an example, a wheelchair ramp at the back of a building is NOT accesssible. Yes you may be able to get in in a wheelchair, but because it's at the back of the building, it is excluding wheelchair users. |
Can they get to it? Is there a note on the front to say that the ramp is at the back? Probably. But this is beside the point. I was merely pointing out that in Ireland we make an effort.