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Old 19-08-2008, 10:21 AM
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I'm sorry but it doesn't. The Internet proves that not many people are interested in building standards compliant websites. It doesn't prove that people with a basic knowledge are not capable of doing it.
What?! As I said already I think we have very different feelings on what we are considering basic here?

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A common misconception between many people is that you need a standards compliant website to be accessible, this is not true at all. You can have an accessible website without being standards compliant.
True. But why not use the guidelines that are there? That the applications that are built to aid accessibility use to base their products on?

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It's an interesting point you make about "not to exclude anyone" - Accessiblity is about "access for all" - now go explain to people who use old computers, with old browsers why they won't have access to your website.
Its all about percentages. and specifically demographics. For my website, or any website that I am involved in, very few people read or connect to it using a browser older than IE6. In fact I think it was less than 1% the last time I checked. However with 7% of internet users using some form of accessibility aid - this is a large percentage to ignore.

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WAI 1 is way too restrictive and WAI 2 are proof of that. WCAG 2 will be more like section 508 which is a more practical and common sense approach. No longer will it revolve around code, but whether it actually works or not.
Excellent. However at the minute we can only work with what we have.

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It still takes longer than doing it the old fashioned way.
What exactly is the old fashioned way that is so much quicker than then current methods?

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Oh I would disagree that "every single new building" has accessible options. I'll give you an example, a wheelchair ramp at the back of a building is NOT accesssible. Yes you may be able to get in in a wheelchair, but because it's at the back of the building, it is excluding wheelchair users.
Can they get to it? Is there a note on the front to say that the ramp is at the back? Probably. But this is beside the point. I was merely pointing out that in Ireland we make an effort.
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