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Old 22-08-2008, 10:48 AM
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Listen, I don't come to this site for arguments. Or insults. Or to be spoken to as a child that cant read a dictionary or understand various words in the english language. Never once did I insult you, merely pointed out the benefits to using the standards that we have in place.
Woah, hang on I didn't insult you at all and I'm certainly not here for an argument either. I'm merely stating some points.

I simply disagreed with your arguments over the benefits of using the latest coding standards.

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I feel my statement was true. There are millions upon millions of badly coded sites out there. And I'm not even talking about standards compliance here. I'm talking about the basics being missing.
And I disagree with you. A website will work in a browser without being standards compliant - so most people don't see the need to. In fact, there's a lot more people that don't care if it only works in one browser.

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I am not wrong. Or wrong again for that matter. Find me a single website that works in every single browser on every single computer and I will show you a page with nothing on it.
You were wrong in saying "Its all about percentages. and specifically demographics". Accessibility is about much more than that.

A website can work and function in EVERY browser. For the designer, it's about understanding what the capabilities of each browser and designing accordingly. You certainly WON'T have a page with nothing on it - unless of course you're using a text only browser

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What? I fail to see how these older standards are any faster than the ones we use today.
In a nutshell, you can build a site much quicker the "old fashioned way" as in tables for layout for example.

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true. However often there is no other way.
Ah but there is...

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I do not spout all day long about anything let alone about coding to the latest standards. I merely pointed out the benefits of using the guidelines in place and that people should aim to use them. Never once did I say any one was wrong not to use them. Because, and this is the important point, I do not care what you do. I do not care how you code your site. or anyone else. However, I do hope that more people code in a more accessible way but at the end of the day, not having access to any particular site would not bother me, as there is nothing on the internet that is important enough to warrant the effort, except for maybe sending/receiving a few emails.
I am definitely on the same hymn sheet with you in terms of hoping more people will code their websites in an acccessible fasion.

Yet, you still refer to Accessibility as if it was all to do with the latest coding standards... Accessibility and coding standards are two completely different things.
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