+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: AJAX and Accessibility?

  1. #1
    blacknight's Avatar
    blacknight is offline Web Slave blacknight is a splendid one to behold blacknight is a splendid one to behold blacknight is a splendid one to behold blacknight is a splendid one to behold blacknight is a splendid one to behold blacknight is a splendid one to behold blacknight is a splendid one to behold blacknight is a splendid one to behold
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    7,890

    Default AJAX and Accessibility?

    Does anyone know of any good resources on the subject of AJAX and accessibility?

    A client of ours is having issues with an application that uses AJAX, as their screen reader cannot interpret the changes to the page display.

  2. #2
    kae's Avatar
    kae
    kae is offline Byte Wrangler kae will become famous soon enough
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    monaghan
    Posts
    54

    Default

    on the accessibility issue - do you make AJAX a requirement for those pages?

    the method I've found works the best is to use unobtrusive techniques.

    ie; you initially create the website without considering JavaScript. then, after the site is working, you layer JavaScript on top such that it adds features to the site.

    an example might be nfgws.ie > Home
    1. with JavaScript turned off, you are shown a menu which includes a link to a sitemap.
    2. with JavaScript turned on, the menu gains some sub-levels thanks to Ajax.


    Kae

  3. #3
    louie's Avatar
    louie is offline Senior Member louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    2,328

    Default

    you have a point there regarding the Javascript being turned on or off, but based on my statistics for the last few years, only 0.71% of my visitors has the Javascript turned off.

    Javascript Enabled 160,314 - 99.29%

    so I don't think that will be an issue.
    Last edited by louie; 19-09-2006 at 09:58 AM. Reason: changing Java to Javascript
    :. Web Design & Development Web Design Ireland
    :. Search Engines Optimization Search Engines Optimization
    :. Car Parts & Accessories Car Parts
    :. Cars Ireland Cars Ireland
    :. I Have 2 Find It Directory SEF Directory

  4. #4
    kae's Avatar
    kae
    kae is offline Byte Wrangler kae will become famous soon enough
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    monaghan
    Posts
    54

    Default

    ouch! ouch! ouch!

    JavaScript is not Java.

    I'm sorry to have to point that out, but it really makes me wince to see that kind of huge error.

    Java vs. JavaScript

    kae

  5. #5
    RedCardinal's Avatar
    RedCardinal is offline Richard Hearne RedCardinal is a splendid one to behold RedCardinal is a splendid one to behold RedCardinal is a splendid one to behold RedCardinal is a splendid one to behold RedCardinal is a splendid one to behold RedCardinal is a splendid one to behold RedCardinal is a splendid one to behold
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Dublin/Phuket
    Posts
    985

    Default

    The first place I would start is Ajaxian.

    If you cant find something over there I'd be well surprised.

    Perhaps they could develop the application in a way that degrades gracefully in the absense of JS, as kae mentioed above.

    Do you know which screen reader they are using?
    RedCardinal.ie Search Engine Optimisation & Online Marketing
    I offer Web Strategy Consulting and SEO Services.
    My sister's handmade canape company - Catering Company Dublin
    On Twitter I'm RedCardinal

  6. #6
    fieldcorbett is offline Member fieldcorbett will become famous soon enough
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Dublin
    Posts
    73

    Default

    I think the jury is still out on AJAX and Accessibility, the current rule of thumb is that you should have a non AJAX alternative.

    Most Accessibility guidelines suggest your site should work without Javascript enabled. This is because many screen readers cannot react to Javascript invoked changes, (sounds like this is the issue your clients are having) it has nothing to do with whether a users browser has the Javascript option enabled. I dont think there's any 'cure' for this I'm afraid.

    Some links:
    Bruce Lawson’s personal site : accessibility web standards
    accessible.ie

    Des

  7. #7
    louie's Avatar
    louie is offline Senior Member louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough louie will become famous soon enough
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    2,328

    Default

    AJAX and Screenreaders: When Can it Work? [JavaScript & AJAX Tutorials]

    read this article regarding the screen readers.
    :. Web Design & Development Web Design Ireland
    :. Search Engines Optimization Search Engines Optimization
    :. Car Parts & Accessories Car Parts
    :. Cars Ireland Cars Ireland
    :. I Have 2 Find It Directory SEF Directory

  8. #8
    Gala is offline Frontpage User Gala will become famous soon enough
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    11

    Default

    I could be wrong but the problem that the screen reader may be having is that the reader isnt capable of detecting the changes on the DOM? Theres a similar problem when it comes to carrying out usability testing on AJAX interfaces which is workable though so im sure there has to be a way around this too.

  9. #9
    3rigena is offline SMB. 3rigena will become famous soon enough
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    454

+ Reply to Thread

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64