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Old 21-01-2006, 05:19 PM
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Adam - if you aren't concerned directly about standards compliance, do you check to see if the site renders correctly in the commonly used browsers?
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Of course: IE, Firefox and Opera. If I remembered to start vncserver on my devel machine I usually login to that to check Konq and possibly Galeon too. The only issue is Safari and other Mac OS browsers, because I don't have access to a Mac. And it is a concern, I recently discovered that a WorldPay integration I developed for a client wasn't working on Mac for some reason. Pain in the hole. But the fact that it had been working for several years without anyone reporting a bug shows me just how many users in that particular market use Macs. (They also ALL - no exceptions - have cookies turned on, which should tell you something about the client base. Let's just say that the letters A, O and L feature heavily.)

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Testing for Macs is a pain alright, as we don't have direct access to any.

One of our clients has launched a service which mitigates this issue, so I've been able to take advantage of it for testing any of the company sites and my own personal projects
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Standards should be followed. Otherwise you get obscenities like a proprietary blogging system whose RSS feed gives dates in UK/Ireland format. Yes, really.
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rsynott - which ones would those be?
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BlogSpot's RSS is mildly non-standard.

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Well I guess I'd be one of these "standards purists" then. For every project I work on I'll use standards. Every single one. I actually find I can't bring myself to work on sites which are tables-based, it's just a horrible, horrible experience.

I'll use semantic code wherever I possibly can (heading tags in a meaningful order, sensible class/id names, minimising the use of ids and classes).

HTML and CSS code should be lightweight, meaningful, maintainable and (I think) "beautiful".

People who are truly web design professionals will conduct their work in a professional manner, adhering to these standards.

Folks who don't use standards aren't keeping up with the industry, and are therefore not (in my eyes) professionals.
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Standards nazis Paul. Called that because they think they're better than everyone else. Hmmm, that reminds me of something...

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Called that because they think they're better than everyone else.
I believe web designers who use standards are better than those that don't. It shows an attention to detail, and a love of the medium.
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There's a difference between using standards and wearing a pocket protector...
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