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Old 09-04-2008, 04:45 PM
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Has anybody noticed any sandbox like effects from the Pages from Ireland. We dominate all our keywords in the Pages from Ireland index but finding it hard to rank in the main index. I'm convinced this is the sandbox effect but I was wondering if others have had similar experiences. The site is less than 6 months old.
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Has anybody noticed any sandbox like effects from the Pages from Ireland. We dominate all our keywords in the Pages from Ireland index but finding it hard to rank in the main index. I'm convinced this is the sandbox effect but I was wondering if others have had similar experiences. The site is less than 6 months old.
Dominating PFI is generally trivial.

More likely to be competition IMO.
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Thanks Richard. I realise PFI is trivial, but I usually find that PFI is a good forecast of your potential to rank in the main index (i.e. Page Titles, Meta Data, etc is optimised good). Of course all this is dependant on the quality of links you obtain. I analysed the top competitions backlinks and where I could I obtained the same link and the ones I couldn't I found similar high quality ones. I think it's down to the age of my site and the age of my links. All the competition have been around 4yrs+ . I read an interview with Aaron Wall where he suggested there might be a google filter for highly competitive words like "mortgages", just wondering what your thoughts would be?
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I'll have to be honest and say I haven't worked with too many new sites of late. But I'd certainly say that the last time I was looking at new sites there was a dampening effect related to trust placed on new sites.

Only reason why I doubt this is what you're seeing is that it would likely affect you (perhaps to a lessor degree) in the PFI. I suppose without knowing the competition and how well you rank in web search it's hard to say much else.

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Cheers Richard, no I would agree with you. For the most part non highly competitive words we rank high in the PFI. Our main keywords, I get to a certain level and no matter how many more links I get we can't get passed a certain level.
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I'd also add from my own experience that appearing in the global results sometimes requires inbound links from a range of markets. As in websites outside of Ireland.

Also if you have an .ie domain name, your content might not be considered as relevant in global results.

As Richard said, could be hard to say without knowing more about the market or terms your targeting.
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Since its related I figured I'd add this too .

Hitwise Intelligence - Robin Goad - UK: How popular is Google's "pages from the UK" search option?
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Matter of interest Drang, I take it the pages below you in PFI do turn up in the web search results?
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Hi Glengara

Yeah they do, some more than others. Euromortgage is the on I'm focusing on. The other one momentum properties, I havent done any real link building with. I suspect my issue is down to domain age and DLR. I'll be looking to fix that over the next few weeks. Can anybody tell me if DLR has a fairly weighty effect over the serps like page titles?
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One oddity is nothing turns up for a "similar pages" search, may not be related to your situation, but is rarely a positive sign...
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