google cant address someone with too much time on their hands clicking away on links

no, and why would they anyway - the're earning billions from it.

Remember, Google is not a public servce , it's a billion $$ US corporation.

I have found it amusing over the time that so many people are anti Microsoft, because they percive it as a monopalistic corporation, and yet they sing the praises of google at any chance......

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not praising google at all, i'm just making the point - u stated problems need to be debated and fixed, and i posted the reply - its not a problem or exploit if someone is bored and keeps clicking links

Actually, since you're in the same business it's called click fraud.

You've done a solid job making sure I and plenty others here will never work with you, that's for sure.


And there are plenty of us, particularly in SEM, who find Google's hypocrisy quite galling.

Hi Trojan,

It would indeed be click fraud if I were clicking ads on my own sites, or those of associates of mine. However, to click ads. returned on google by way of search query is not the same thing.

Yes, it is.

Have a read of this: Click fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Note: Use of a computer to commit this type of Internet fraud is a felony in many jurisdictions, for example as covered by Penal code 502 in California, USA, and the Computer Misuse Act 1990 in the United Kingdom. There have been arrests relating to click fraud with regard to malicious clicking in order to deplete a competitor's advertising budget.

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And your a member of the IIA? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Click fraud is not defined soley as clicking ads on your own site - clicking on them "just to waste the money of the advertisers... no law against that & sure google have no objections" isn't quite true.

Google and Overture Define Click Fraud

well, i stand corrected on the issue of click fraud.

Thanx for the links redfly. It is certainly an interesting topic of discussion.

I was realy just trying to make the point that these ads are very suseptable to abuse, and I imagine that the level of abuse will only increase over time. Certainly the awareness of click revenue (or belief that there is easy money to be made) is increasing as ppc ads. become more and more prevalent.

It makes you wonder where the future lies for ppc ads. I can only assume that Google will have to introduce a more selective policy of where the ads are shown if they are to survive in the long term.

I am a member of the IIA, and no I'm not ashamed of myself. The fact is I am playing Devils advocate to some extent. If the ppc system is so open to abuse, perhaps I am infact making a positive contibution by provoking discusion.

The members of the forum may disagree with me on any number of issues, but at the end of the day my personal merit is neither the topic of discussion, or of any consequence in the bigger picture.

The article Click fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia you refered to states that 'Click fraud is the subject of some controversy'. I would agree that the topic is contovercial, and would be interested to discuss. I have a suspicion that not everyone is so eager to discuss the vunrabilities or level of abuse, perhaps those that promote ppc or those that benifit from it (Google etc.)......

I would also like to point out that I am only marginaly involved in ppc networks etc. My own google revenue probaly just about covers the spend on instant coffee in the office.

This has - eventually - raised a very interesting point since as PPC grows in popularity, direct competitors will find themselves bidding their key words and phrases ever upwards to the benefit of Google, the website that may host ads but certainly not to the PPC purchasers' benefit.

I am finding it increasingly difficult to reconcile PPC with a proper strategy for some clients, especially those with low priced items or services where the cost of online marketing can not be easily absorbed, or where there is no expectation of return sales and thus no chance to defray the cost over several purchases... any opinions out there?

FWIW...