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Hi all, I am new here and looking to learn a little about SEO. Well that is not true, I don't actually want to learn SEO as I am so confused by it all now, but my site needs it.

I have read the SEO made easy guide and am more confused now than I was before.

Where would be a good place to start? I mean start real simple and work my way up the ratings.

Alternatively if anyone is happy to help me for a little pocketmoney my pm is always open.

Mods, if this is in the wtong forum, sorry, I was not sure where to put it.

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Welcome to the forum

If you could let us know what your site is we might be able to offer you advice
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Thanks Blacknight, the site is Moneytalk.ie - Irelands Financial Discussion Forum At the moment I am having to pay for google adwords to get hits.

Yahoo and Google tell me the keywords I am using are not hugely popular, as long as I refer everything to Ireland and Irish, for example there is no competition for "Irish mortgage calculator" but if I were to choose "mortgage calculator", there are people paying up to €9 per click.

I am only interested in the Irish users so don't want to be big on google.com but do on google.ie if that makes sense.

Any help, hugely appreciated.

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First off - the site takes forever to load and pinging it I get:

Code:
Pinging moneytalk.ie [209.85.14.6] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.85.14.6: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=52
Reply from 209.85.14.6: bytes=32 time=168ms TTL=52
Reply from 209.85.14.6: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=52
Reply from 209.85.14.6: bytes=32 time=169ms TTL=52

Ping statistics for 209.85.14.6:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 167ms, Maximum = 172ms, Average = 169ms
Compared to:
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Pinging irishwebmasterforum.com [81.17.240.200] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 81.17.240.200: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=60
Reply from 81.17.240.200: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=60
Reply from 81.17.240.200: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=60
Reply from 81.17.240.200: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=60

Ping statistics for 81.17.240.200:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 23ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 28ms
In terms of the SEO you have two basic choices:

1 - Stick with phpbb2 and hack it to pieces
2 - Invest in vbulletin and vbseo
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Thanks Darknight, funny you mention V-bulletin my intention was to use a vb forum but it has developed a bug which makes it take forever to load (intermittently) your pinging would need a calander to time it. It is here:
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Would you have any ideas how I look for the bugs in it? A friend was helping me and ran validot on it and once it said there was a <br> error on line 712 but there are only 512 lines, then when run again no errors were reported. Tis driving me nuts.

Any idea why the PHPBB is running slow? is that just part of the parcel? I haven't noticed it taking a long time to load myself though.

Thanks again for the help

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As 'Darkhorse' (sorry Michele, just couldn't resist ) mentions, try using a set up similar to the one you find on these boards.

In fact you could probably learn a lot from this board. I'm sure Michele wont mind me mentioning that he gets tonnes of Search Engine traffic (organic not paid).

You might get some ideas about keywords from either Wordtracker or Keyword Discovery (both offer free tools). Also have you built pages that specifically target those words? Do you actually have a mortgage calculator?

Looking at your index in Google I can see that many pages are stuck in the supplemental index. You really need to get more links pointing at your site, and in particular deep links pointing at inner pages.
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Hi Redcardinal, I do indeed have a mortgage calculator. I have been trying to build up links but it is all through crappy link exchanges and they all just point at my index page.

Any suggestions for getting these links required?

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Off the top of my head? Probably not.

Avoid the link exchanges unless you have plenty of other links. If nothing else try submitting to directories (human edited only). Are you a hack? Could you put together something like a calculator that others could put on their sites? Widgets could be nice in your space.

Maybe post on related forums and add a signature. Deeplinks is going to require good content. Can you write articles? Article submission might get you some easy deeplinks (don't spam though).

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Ok some food for thought there Red, cheers. As for my being a hack, no, I'm a muppet lol. I am bumbling around the net picking up tit bits of info here and there lol.

I'd love my vb site to go live but it is driving me crackers as it intermittently hangs which will really bug people.

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