Yeah, talking about spam. How come Google is not picking that up?

SERPs are all over the shop these days....

Trying to capitalise on the fact that there are loads of crap Web designers out there isn't big, hard or clever.

Not sure what you mean Ken as in 'trying to capitalise'.

Originally Posted by TheMenace

Trying to capitalise on the fact that there are loads of crap Web designers out there isn't big, hard or clever.

Bingo. And that's the only reason the SEO "industry" exists. Because there are so many negligent, irresponsible and—as Ken put it—crap designers and developers out there.

Originally Posted by eoghanmccabe

Bingo. And that's the only reason the SEO "industry" exists.

There was me thinking it was because of the methods used by Search Engines to index and list websites, not the fact there are so many bad developers/designers.

Originally Posted by Gavin

There was me thinking it was because of the methods used by Search Engines to index and list websites, not the fact there are so many bad developers/designers.

But can you imagine if search engines indexed anything and everything? We would be stuck with Flash websites and Tabled Design. I can only imagine the pain.

Not to mention ugly url's and session ID's, no thanks. Oh and have you seen the junk Microsoft used to allow in websites with Frontpage?

It would have been code and tag soup of the propietry kind. I for one am glad that search engine such as Google took a stand and said, "you know what?" if you want to get listed in here you need to follow some kind of web standards.

Yay! for standards

Originally Posted by eoghanmccabe

Bingo. And that's the only reason the SEO "industry" exists. Because there are so many negligent, irresponsible and—as Ken put it—crap designers and developers out there.

That's a load of bull.

Originally Posted by blacknight

That's a load of bull.

Seconded.

Eoghan I personally think you are so wide of the mark that I decided not to even engage you on your post. If you really believe you're own words it's no wonder you're not selling 'SEO'.

Pray tell how your theory stacks up in ultra-competitive niches where all the top sites have excellent design and content? There are only 10 positions on page 1 - how does Google decide which to elevate to #1? The nicest design? The cleanist code? I'm all ears to hear your designer best practice solution to that little issue.