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Old 09-11-2006, 12:48 PM
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Does anyone know if Google penalises sites with a pragma no cache tag on the page?
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Does anyone have any ideas at all on this - does Google penalise sites if they have a no cache tag? Any thoughts appreciated!
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I think that you may well find you get zero traffic from Google. The no cache tag *may* have the effect of giving Google no confidence that the page can be served.

I haven't come across it personally but I have seen others comment on these effects.

Why do you want no cache?
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Isnt the no cache tag to stop browsers from placing the page into the Temp Internet files (although this is not supported by all browsers) and noarchive tag to stop the Search Engine from caching the page?

I do see a site sitting in the top 5 on Google that uses the pragma no cache tag and "Cache-Control" content="no-cache" tag.
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It is but I've seen some horror stories over on the Google group of people losing all traffic after inserting the pragma tag.

Not sure if I'd risk it myself.
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Shouldn't be a problem, used to be a commonly used by cloakers, so I'd make sure your reasons for using it are pure ;-)
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My mistake Cormac was right, that tag only effects browsers not SEs..
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If I was to take a guess I'd say google might not rank these sites as setting no pragma is usually done by web applications - which they may not want to index.

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Not sure if I'd risk it myself.
I am with you on that one. Although I have never used the tag myself if I was I would test it on an non-important site.
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Thanks for that! It's something to take back to the IT department in my company.
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