Of course they are, another 'beginner' may think they should only charge that rate also, even if they are more talented, and at a professional level.

You say did anyone get a chance to look at my portfolio, well obviously you did not read it properly because if you had you would see that it says that link is to the old website, not the one that I made. It links to their 3 year old website which I am doing an update on.

I know that people might under-estimate me because I am a student, but I can assure you that the new site is miles better than anything in my portfolio and it includes a CMS. I hope i can prove you all wrong when you see the new site.

It will be uploaded in about two days so ill post a link here so you can see it. And I welcome all constructive criticism, but what is the point of dissing me. What do you plan to achieve?

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That's the stuff Conor. Look forward to seein it.

I'm not 'dissing' you, I was actually making the point to the people saying you were undercharging. And btw, portfolio is a showcase of work, it doesn't matter how old it is - it is to show your skills, you can't go for a job and say... 'ah well i've done much better stuff but it's not in my portfolio'
Look forward to seeing the new site, and if you are under or over charging.

ah no, it was a valid point, if a little rough! We do all have to learn the ropes and charge accordingly. Would suggest Conor that you get some work in a web company though and learn the ropes inside out, nothing like working with really good designers to learn how they go about things.

Another point, if you charge someone €200 or €400 for a website, you set an expectation and an effect on the market price. Right now there is 100's of guys trying to setup a web company but dont have the experience to deliver.

If you charge €200 for a website, and you develop 1 per working day, that is only €4,000 and developing 20 sites a month would be something short of a miracle (unless you're a machine).

If you weren't a qualified mechanic, doctor, solicitor, you wouldn't be allowed to charge at all, even if it was €1 per consultation.

It's a tough industry and it's probably about to get tougher

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got the site up.

i'm not allowed to post a proper link so: thestrats.com

I have a few small changes to make but its mainly complete. I welcome any suggestions as to layout etc.

I got €150 for the design, let me know if you think thats reasonable.

thanks

I would say it's a little excessive considering all I'm seeing is:

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lol

yeah! after finishing the project yesterday i thought to myself yes it is finally completly 100% finished....

then this morning i got an email from my hosting provider saying that all the databases on the server were down. He recomended that i change my hosting. I am shocked. :-)