Hi guys

I just read over your comments on the boards,,i was looking for ripe ncc in holland and i googled ripe.ie

From their name and marketing stategy they will do ok,as their site looks cool, and user friendly,but i dont think corporate companies seeking a heavy weight web site will not be steered towards cost cutting web companies to save a few bucks.

so no need for panic and keep the chin up.

Larry

There are also a couple of threads related to RIPE ncc (just not this one)

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totally independent on this one as I don't know the company. Just wondering what you based this quote on, have you experience working with them, I don't see any of their clients listed on their website either, what work have they done ?

Well I'm basing my judgement on several things:

• They spam message boards in order to sell their services.
• Their own website is an off-the-shelf template.
• They make cheap, unfounded claims against their competition on their own site and have the audacity to cheapen the industry by making light of the skills and expertise involved. Skills, expertise and talent, I might add, that they are very much lacking themselves.
• The dummy sites in their portfolio are templates - I can only assume, if they're using templates for their own web presence, that they do the same for their clients.
• Web design should be left to professionals. If you are going to design websites at knock-down prices then more power to you but you should at least employ web standards.

I could go on?

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Are you sure that their website is a template ? O wait ....

Website Template #11330 by Svelte


... yea guess the issue is using the templates directly which don't validate, fairly new to this myself but from a customers perspective, is it that bad that they receive a cheap website, that for them looks ok, when they never heard of web standards, I think that if they halved their price this might be ok ?? (including 1 year hosting and .ie domain)

If they were selling themselves as bargain basement web sites (I won't say design, since they obviously aren't designing anything) it would be a different matter

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Yes, it is that bad. If they were completely transparent and honest and they didn't try to punch in the same weight as their competitors maybe. Rather than having a po-faced 'competitors' section where they sell a high-handed view of an industry that they don't understand, they should dedicate a section of their site to explain why their sites are so cheap:

1) We use off-the-shelf templates that cost about 10% of what we charge and dozens or even hundreds of other companies could have the very same website as you.

2) We ignore web standards, accessibility and best practice. This will mean that your site is not future-proofed, you could potentially lose a sizable number of customers, maintenance is more costly and difficult... the list could go on forever.

3) We do not optimise your site for search engines, losing you potential mass footfall.

Is it okay to sell a woman a car with no brake pads if she doesn't know what brake pads are?

I'm sorry. I have to steal that one. And use it over and over again! PERFECT!

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Ok FP I totally agree. But are you saying DW users are not "designers"? I understood that the majority of web design companies use DW. Which is why I downloaded it recently to learn how to us it (i usually do everything by hand .. coding I mean, dirty minded ****ers).

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