Broken Websites?

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sorry wasnt talking about corkcity.ie specifically - my thought was that you should get a site working first - then worry if its valid or not

Of course some people will argue that if its valid in the first place that it will work - that is not always the case :)

ricardo said:
Only in versions 5.5 to 6 :D It breaks up in IE7
well let us not forget that IE7 is still in beta
 
#23
Vaildation

My points on validation pretty much boil down to:
  • if it validates then there's an lot better chance that it'll work in most places (usually if it doesn't the issues are minor).
  • non validating sites will almost never work in standard compliant browsers (Firefox usually ingnores tags that aren't closed for example)
  • if you want you site to be accessible (and most councils + gov orgs dont have a choice) it must validate
The best tip I got on developing sites that must support multiple browsers is to develop using a standards compliant browser (Firefox) and then when done test on non compliant ones. Making it work this way round is much easier.

I also dont agree with saying "theres always something that breaks validation" - its really not that hard to create compliant sites.
 
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fieldcorbett said:
non validating sites will almost never work in standard compliant browsers (Firefox usually ingnores tags that aren't closed for example)
I have built non valid websites - that work in all browsers (including Macs) (that includes websites built using tables)

The best tip I got on developing sites that must support multiple browsers is to develop using a standards compliant browser (Firefox) and then when done test on non compliant ones. Making it work this way round is much easier.
I wouldnt agree with that at all - Firefox is my browser of preference - but the figures do not lie - the majority of people always have and always will use IE. It will be some years until any other browser comes close to the dominant figures that IE has attained
 
#25
Validation

I guess its horses for courses about validation. I'd be confident enough in saying its better to validate and that checking your sites on a compilant browser first is easier.

But if you get the results you need without doing that no probs. I have a bit of a hobby horse about accessibility so I guess I'm biased toward validation too.

:)
des
 

mneylon

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#26
We tried to make our website compliant, but it isn't 100% compliant. It works on all browsers however.
The compliancy issues are mainly to do with the CMS' editor shoving in extra characters that are a real pain to strip out..
 
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blacknight said:
Why would you disable Javascript?
Boards.ie's little javascript menu thing along the top causes quite dramatic slowdowns in Safari, so I often disable javascript there. When visiting sites which I know try to resize the window, I will disable javascript. And so on...
 
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