Feck web accessibilty

Discussion in 'Webmaster Discussion' started by Arch-Stanton, Apr 14, 2007.

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  1. Arch-Stanton

    Arch-Stanton New Member

  2. Redfly

    Redfly Moderator

    Poor form I think not even MENTIONING the ones who did validate and adhere to best practices. That article just lumped names pulled from search results together and through some poor editorial skills, tarred them all with the same brush.
     
  3. Cormac

    Cormac New Member

  4. Redfly

    Redfly Moderator

    Looks like he couldn't handle the heat!
     
  5. Redfly

    Redfly Moderator

    I'd also like to hazzard a guess that this blog belongs to Erigena.

    Have a read of the language, the other posts and the links TO Erigena.

    Also, I believe I saw a similar blog with a misspelling linked to from Erigena. Something you are not telling us mate?
     
  6. Cormac

    Cormac New Member

    I was thinking that myself, especially when you consider the Technorati page..Technorati Profile for fruitmachine: Claimed Blogs
     
  7. Redfly

    Redfly Moderator

    Didn't see the link to Erigena in the sidebar. :)

    Erigena, Why did you not approve my comment?
     
  8. TheMenace

    TheMenace New Member

    Well I see that the comment I added to this idiots blog yesterday hasn't been approved. That's censorship for you! I posted something along the lines of automated accessibility validation tools being unreliable and lab/user tests being much more important. The guy's obviously way out of his depth and doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

    I know that he probably posts on here, so I would challenge him to elaborate on his assertions with some actual evidence. Don't try to be an authority on web design unless you've got the onions to back it up.
     
  9. daviddoran

    daviddoran New Member

    I posted aswell and it hasn't been approved so at the moment I'm presuming he hasn't got to it or something. Other than that, it would be super-censorship!
     
  10. louie

    louie New Member

    That is a lot of b****x. Somebody got too cocky about it. I love to know who it is and I have a fair ideea but need to be sure.
     
  11. lato

    lato New Member

    That sort of criticism, no matter who does it, is not the way to get work.

    Its disgusting, desperate and shameful.


    Google doesn't validate often enough.
     
  12. louie

    louie New Member

    speaking about google, it never validates, no even the search page Google which has 22 errors
     
  13. daviddoran

    daviddoran New Member

    Google is a whole other story. The lack of quality in Google's pages is so bad it doesn't come under the topic of standards or accessibility, we're just talking about plain sensible structure.
    Have you seen the code on any page? Even pages they shouldn't have to optimize too much like product information pages are riddled with bits of CSS and the odd bit of Javascript, it's a shame.
     
  14. 3rigena

    3rigena New Member

    Hi folks,

    err.. 1 word. linkbait..

    That blog [which is meant as more of a splog] article [slapped together in 5 mins as you can see... ] simply pointed out that a majority of sites surveyed left a lot to be desired, and lets the user find out themselves which are standards compliant.

    sure is.


    Such an article was obviously going to lead to some ruffled feathers, but was not an assisination piece by a long-shot.

    also, that site also has nothing to do with "trying to get work" as you put it.. it represents just another inlink...

    no fingers pointed, no shame. house in order = no shame...

    regarding comments, none were recorded by blogs.ie.. it is worse than boards.ie..
    [edit: oops yeah there's a bunch of em..]

    Broaching this subject shouldn't such cause a stir, and I daresay that If all 15 sites were up for some random web-award, we would all know about the (ironic) problems of the finalists.. via some blog or other..

    3rigena
     
  15. lato

    lato New Member

    Quite righht, 3rigena
    boards ireland, can be horrible ( horrible un moderated comments, a month ago and towards persons who are trying to establish a web presence).

    Responsible for over half a million pages globally ,moderator often, admin often, tis terrible the carry on over here.

    However, the way forward is not to follow "suit", for anyone.
    We're speaking generally, right?

    Well, thats what I'm doing and assume that the reference to the irish boards is of a similar measure.

    But what do we do now? Delete it (whoever), and move on.
     
  16. lato

    lato New Member

    Quite righht, 3rigena
    boards ireland, can be horrible ( horrible un moderated comments, a month ago and towards persons who are trying to establish a web presence).

    Responsible for over half a million pages globally ,moderator often, admin often, tis terrible the carry on over here.

    However, the way forward is not to follow "suit", for anyone.
    We're speaking generally, right?

    Well, thats what I'm doing and assume that the reference to the irish boards is of a similar measure.

    But what do we do now? Delete it (whoever posted it, forgive and forget a mistake), and move on.
     
  17. TheMenace

    TheMenace New Member

    Personally I think you're punching well above your weight.
     
  18. 3rigena

    3rigena New Member

    sigh. what on earth are you talking about now. nobody is doing any punching..
    would you care to be more specific mr judge jury and executioner. you aren't exactly awash with constructive criticism... quick to call people names I see. Oh this is going to be a good thread.
     
  19. Cormac

    Cormac New Member

    A few other words...unprofessional behavior, underhanded tactics, immature ramblings..

    It seems to be more of a low blow in my opinion. You used a blanket attack on 14 of your competitors without ever disclosing that you represented one of the valid 15 and further more you failed to name those who did validate thus making an attempt to tarnish as many of your competitors in one go.


    So what was the purpose of the piece? It's not like it was groundbreaking or served any purpose besides from boosting your own ego.


    I have no idea what you mean here or the relevancy of boards.ie to your blogpost. It's kind of ironic that you mention blogging...what is stopping any of the 14 from trackingback your article and showing you up in the same manner that you tried to show others up.

    It's a dangerous game that you're trying to play and no matter what you write in this thread you're not going to be able to clean up after yourself.
     
  20. 3rigena

    3rigena New Member

    does that sum it up for you? everyone else seemed to get it fine.

    it was a blog post. what is the point of your blog ramblings? Mine addressed something which I found distasteful. also, the post does not reflect any opinion of whomever I might be employed by and yada yada...


    last time I checked, being a professional meant adhering to standards, being honest, keeping abreast of new stuff and so on.. something some people would do well to remember.

    well make up your mind.... It was meant as a wake up call. no need for low-blows when the writing is on the wall. I did go back and alter the post to reflect the sites that did pass, but you neglected to check that before your morning assasination attempt.

    I fail to see how not mentioning that "my site" (as you put it) was in the list was bad form.. ?

    that is a very stupid thing to say... obviously i would be tarnishing myself since my site(as you put it) is on the same list...

    and the thread goes on..
     
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