How many staff do you have?

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  • Less than 5

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figment

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Me and two others. Trying to clear the finances for two more.
 

webdream

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outsource to Thailand.... great brains there for 10,000 BHT a month (200 Euro) + you can write off your visits against tax!
 

Redfly

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4 in total excluding contractors. Would love to hire more, but it's SUPER hard to find staff that either know what you do or can do it right (Your way).
 

TheMenace

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I've noticed a huge increase in the number of Web Design and Development jobs posted on Irish Jobs, Creative Ireland, etc. recently. Knowing a few of the people who are hiring, I'm told that decent production staff are fairly thin on the ground. One thing I haven't noticed however is that salaries aren't really increasing inline with demand.

A lot of Web agencies seem reluctant to pay for talent, preferring to save a few quid in the hope of finding someone cheap (due to inexperience) yet talented. I know it seems like good business sense but it's hardly a workable long-term employment strategy. Once your designers get experience, they're likely to go somewhere else on a much higher salary.

I know some very skilled Web Developers with 7 years+ experience being expected to work for €30k-€35k per annum. Which is, quite frankly, ridiculous - especially in a city as expensive as Dublin.

I guess it's just a matter of the industry being taken more seriously by both Web companies and also clients so that margins can increase and talent can be afforded. In its present form, the industry is loaded with poorly paid production staff and overpaid suits who are selling poor-mediocre quality work to naive clients. Which is why it's great to see companies like Spoilt Child, Metronet and gravitate being run by designers, developers and/or people passionate about the industry.

If salaries increase, I feel it will actually work for Web companies and not against them! Just ask the advertising industry! One thing's for sure though, it's not an employers market anymore.
 

the guru

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We have approx 50 staff not including contractors , strange when I seen the results so many companies that are only one staff member. I find it quite hard to believe that one person can offer all aspects of Web Dev to their clients, such as IA , PM, programming and design not to mention SEO
 

TheMenace

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We have approx 50 staff not including contractors , strange when I seen the results so many companies that are only one staff member. I find it quite hard to believe that one person can offer all aspects of Web Dev to their clients, such as IA , PM, programming and design not to mention SEO
50 is pretty huge for a Web company. Do you mind me asking which one?
 

TheMenace

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Oh yes, that's right. Now I remember. Well if you're in the US, that explains it. I don't think there's enough work in Ireland to necessitate to company of that size.
 

the guru

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Oh yes, that's right. Now I remember. Well if you're in the US, that explains it. I don't think there's enough work in Ireland to necessitate to company of that size.
I don't know about that. I seem to remember when I lived in Dublin, their were lots of big companies, I account managed some of them when I worked with eircom, these guys where bringing in big contracts at the time for 40k for a site. Which I thought was crazy money. There is lots of big companies in Ireland and some of the sites are **** TBH, however its seems that the 3 year turn around for a site make over has arrived with the redesign of RTE and AIB, to name a few.

In my opinion if you want to get the big contracts you cant be a one or two man shop, clients want more now than ever with all the changes that are going on with the web, one service we added was IA this allowed us to better plan websites and get them through Dev quicker.
 

TheMenace

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I don't know about that. I seem to remember when I lived in Dublin, their were lots of big companies, I account managed some of them when I worked with eircom, these guys where bringing in big contracts at the time for 40k for a site. Which I thought was crazy money.
Maybe back before the bubble burst. I can tell you now though that most of the more well known Web design and development companies in Ireland are small, under-resourced, two-bit efforts working out of basements!

There is lots of big companies in Ireland and some of the sites are **** TBH, however its seems that the 3 year turn around for a site make over has arrived with the redesign of RTE and AIB, to name a few.
Well yes, these are big companies but they're not Web development companies. RTE, to the best of my knowledge, have taken their website in-house with some of the work outsourced.

In my opinion if you want to get the big contracts you cant be a one or two man shop, clients want more now than ever with all the changes that are going on with the web, one service we added was IA this allowed us to better plan websites and get them through Dev quicker.
Yeah, I completely agree in principal. That's how the ideal Web agency would be run. I can assure you now though that there simply isn't the work in Ireland to justify having a load of specialists on the books. You could outsource a lot of the IA, SEO, etc. of course. Besides, most Irish clients aren't willing to pay extra for those services and are largely ignorant as to their benefits (and the benefits of doing business online in fact)
 

the guru

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I just looked at your portfolio and its pretty damn impressive. I cant see you have too many issues getting work
 

32paul52

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I have one full time- working in the pHillipines- i am training him to build links :) -total cost per month $250 US
 
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