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SEO

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Thanks for some of the constructive feedback guys, I will take all on board.

All contact info will be shown and a full detailed explanation of each package will be added with samples to prove it isnt spam etc.

Will make my life much less stressful :)
 

SEO

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Yes Danielle and i appreciate that, but try to keep your paste experiences out of what I do please.

I dont spam forums or blogs, I carry out legit white hat SEO.

Im not trying to sell to anyone here just see how my visuals could be improved before design stage is finalised thats all.

Once I sign off design the web company will tidy up all coding and additional pages etc.
 

SEO

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1 last thing before lunch:

I want to be open with customers

I want to help them

I want to provide a good service

I will NOT get them banned and am open to constructive suggestions . Maybe you think I should sell article writing packages instead???

But please lets not get into slating each other before discussing things
 

SEO

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Danielle why did you refer to post I made before to help those looking to buy domain ?????

What is the problem with this tool??????
 

Forbairt

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As an admin of the forum I don't see a reason to delete the thread a lot of people have posted feedback on the site and on the terminology you're using ... they've also given feedback on best practices. Asked for comment examples you're failing to provide them. Key issues with the site have been pointed out such as the use of watermarked images which I believe are still in use though I'm not 100% sure though I'm sure getty images will be happy to follow up on that one.

User experience is about the design as well as the content ... no contact details / no TOS / no links to client work all don't instill confidence

Lack of detailed descriptions for the packages means it's all just buzz words and I'd have to seriously wonder if anyone would ever pay for these services.

In telling people on here we don't know about SEO I have to laugh as the number of combined years experience from the people who've posted is rather insane. :)
 

SEO

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Look guys
I understand looking at this design without contact info package details etc looks bad for all mentioned.

I will rectify these things and show working samples on the site, as I obviously want customers to knwo and trust what they are buying.

As I said before designs are still being changed as we speak and sections added.

Im not trying to avoid any questions but have priorities first being my design sign off.

IF you guys on here think this is a bad idea for the Irish market please tell me, I can provide article writing service, onsite SEO etc etc, but would appreciate some conversation instead of ridicule.
 

TheMenace

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Not at all, I cant waste time talking to people who are against what I do SEO.

Nobody here is against SEO. It's just that SEO is part of the web design and development process. The vast majority of people who specialise in it as a standalone service with no other skills are idiots.

If you want to break into the web industry, might I suggest learning design, development, UX principles or some other aspect of interactive production? You know, contribute to the web rather than turning it into cheap dime store.
 

SEO

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:)
thanks for decent feedback. To be honest I am going of the idea now due to reponse on this site.

If this site looks spammy then its not what I want to portray, as what I do is not.

I think I will go back to the drawing board and rethink the entire pitching to public.
 

SEO

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Forbairt, I didnt mean remove thread, just freeze it :) so I dont have to keep answering posts.

Also the images you see are being changes hence watermarks - already have been purchased so no issues.
 

Satanta

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Now I need design feedback thats all, so if you dont have any please dont comment anymore as I cant keep responding to this comments please.
I find this incredibly ironic given the "self righteous" comments you've been hurling at so many of the participants in the thread.

You've asked for a site review, people are giving their feedback. Once you put something up for discussion on an open forum you can't dictate what does and doesn't get discussed.

Speaking honestly, it should be clear that the issue isn't going to be your design, it's the basic concept that's flawed. What you are selling is a clear breach of search engine guidelines. You're selling it knowing this, admitting this and denying what the potential implications of this could be (de-indexing); hence the extreme lack of ethics in this case. Trying to justify it with "everyone is doing it", "I sell it to the big agencies" or a blanket "you don't understand SEO" (which is clearly false in many cases, you're talking with a large number of successful full time SEOs and while Michele and others may not be full time SEOs they do seem to understand the concepts far better than some who are claiming to be!) shows just how flawed this is.

With regards spam - anything not natural is spam - Eg writing numerous articles on 1 topic etc - where do you draw the line
Manipulation of search engines - that is funny :) all marketing is manipulation of the target audience. If you are aginst SEO then fine but dont get involved in slating it if your not an SEO please are you are waisting your own time and mine.
Anything 'not natural' is spam? Again, that's not even close to describing what spam is.

Writing numerous articles on one topic, assuming they have unique content and add value for your users, is perfectly normal and to be expected. It's part of building the theme and the relevancy of a site. It's SEO 101 and is fully encouraged and supported by the search engines.

To describe all marketing as manipulation (and by extension all SEO as manipulation) shows where the differences of opinion are originating from and why you're receiving the reaction you are.

how does that make buying or selling the commodity they released on the open market, a matter of ethics?
You can do anything you wish to do, but doing it without giving the full implications of what is being done (you've admitted yourself that it's against the search engine guidelines) and incorrectly claiming it can't have a negative impact (yes, I've seen sites de-listed for exactly what you're selling, numerous times. A quick flick through the Google Webmaster Forum will show many cases of exactly this scenario) make the manner in which they're being sold extremely unethical.

I offer the same as ALL SEO companies out there - bnut if you were an SEO ud know this!!!!
Rubbish. Don't tar an entire industry with the one brush. There are a huge number of freelancers and agencies that operate at a higher level. If you truly believe that SEO is all about link wheels, profile spam and low quality link farms then I really do worry. That's not what SEO is about, despite so many snake oil salesmen giving that impression, and it hurts those of us with higher standards to see that type of rubbish being propagated.

Black night yet again your lack of understanding shows through - Google does not like SEO and thinks it shouldnt be paid for.
Again, rubbish. Google have absolutely no issue with SEOs. They work extremely closely with the industry, directly participating at events and providing guidance where they can. They don't have issues with SEO, they have issues with spammy crap that masquerades as SEO to those that don't know any better.

I do NOT spam.

Why - because I have a serious network of blogs to comment from that I have built up.

Profile links are created manually and pointed only to articles ( Not automated)
Having your own link farm and manually creating spammy links don't make them any less spam. If you sign up to a forum, manually, for the sole intention of profile linking, manually, that's spam. You're using up that sites bandwidth and resources with the sole intention of search engine manipulation. You're hurting a legitimate forum (and legitimate forum owners such as Blacknight) to produce an income for yourself, while breaching search engine guidelines and putting your clients at risk. If that's not ethically questionable, how would you describe it?
 

SEO

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Listen to me you D**K

I have prob better rankings than you have ever achieved.

I carry out link building SAME as ALL SEO companies that get high ranks.

I only carry out White Hat you di**

so get lost.

No SEO company would not carry out link building for purpose for rankings, which Google does NOT like!!!!!!!!

Your telling me you do SEO and DONT add links then your results must be useless.

Anyway Ive had enough of jumped up SEO wannabies to do me.

To be honest got some vaild points here, but as*hol** jumping on band wagon cutting and pasting references need a life.
 

Forbairt

Teaching / Designing / Developing
Dear god your responses are a bit offensive?

Lesson one on the web .. learn to develop a thick skin as your work is going to get criticised.

Please refrain from name calling even if *'ing things up
 

SEO

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For those who left feedback i can take with me thank you.

For those who tried to make accusations without founding well you know :)

I am now leaving this forum before I have a heart attack with high blood pressure levels at 42 I need to take care.}

Anyway best of luck to everyone.

Bye
 

TheMenace

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Listen to me you D**K

I have prob better rankings than you have ever achieved.

I carry out link building SAME as ALL SEO companies that get high ranks.

I only carry out White Hat you di**

so get lost.

No SEO company would not carry out link building for purpose for rankings, which Google does NOT like!!!!!!!!

Your telling me you do SEO and DONT add links then your results must be useless.

Anyway Ive had enough of jumped up SEO wannabies to do me.

To be honest got some vaild points here, but as*hol** jumping on band wagon cutting and pasting references need a life.

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Forbairt

Teaching / Designing / Developing
I've had a request from the user SEO to close his account and this thread. I'll leave it open another hour or two then close it in case anyone has anything final to say?
 

JohnJoe

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Wow serious amount of haters here.

OP your site isn't terrible, its not mind blowing either. Your prices are very high compared to whats available outside of Ireland. Suggest you post about it on other forums, where you may get some reasoned replies.
 

paul

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How about the OP shows us how good he is buy getting IWF to rank for something competitive in Ireland like "home insurance" ?

In the interest of transparency, I would vote to leave this thread & user a/c. That way anyone researching SEO-GODS.com can find this thread, and see his 'professional manner'.
 
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