Question about 'Adult Oriented' domains

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mneylon

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wheres me jumpa

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I am trying to register it as I think the rule in question is nuts

See:

Michele Neylon :: Pensieri » Blog Archive » Is the Irish Internet Prudish?


The rule in question being:

3.4: The proposed domain name must not be offensive or contrary to public policy or generally accepted principles of morality.
(see Naming Policy)
When registering Porn.ie, you would need at least a registered business name of similar phrasing? Are there any C.R.O. restrictions on use of words?
 

mneylon

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When registering Porn.ie, you would need at least a registered business name of similar phrasing? Are there any C.R.O. restrictions on use of words?
The problem is that they are adamant about not registering it, so you could have RBNs until the cows come home, but it wouldn't make any difference
 

AlwaysAmber

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Taken from the December issue of XBiz (a magazine for adult webmasters):

Irish Domain Registrar Bans ‘Porn’

DUBLIN — While adult entertainment is legal to produce and sell in Ireland, apparently the word “porn” doesn’t pass muster. According to both the Irish Registrar of the .ie Internet domain suffix and the Companies Registration Office (CRO), Porn.ie should be banned because it endangers public morality.

Section 3.4 of the .ie naming policy states that web addresses “must not be offensive or contrary to public policy or generally accepted principles of morality.”

Irish IT worker Stephen Ryan attempted to register Porn.ie, but was immediately rebuffed because the name “could be deemed to be offensive to others,” the CRO wrote in the rejection letter.

“They aren’t saying the act of porn is offensive or immoral, they’re saying the word is,” Ryan told the Sunday Times of London. “This baffles me for a number of reasons. How is a word immoral? The act of rape is immoral, but the word ‘rape’ isn’t. It’s the same with murder. Why doesn’t this logic apply to porn, whether or not they think porn is immoral?”

According to the IE Domain Registry (IEDR), it will not stop at banning Porn.ie. Sites with names like ****.ie or Cock.ie would be included, as would the “seven dirty words” comedian George Carlin made famous in his stand-up act. IEDR said that 10 applications for the word “porn” have been refused since September 2001, and it is working on a list of words that will be banned.

“I’m just a normal guy,” Ryan said. “I’m not a pornographer. I don’t own a sex shop. I work for a big multinational. It doesn’t make any sense. Porn is perfectly legal in Ireland. I don’t know why they feel that they should be outlawing it and I don’t know how they feel they should be allowed to. What do they want us to call it, dirty pictures?”

IEDR manages all new registrations for the .ie extension. The company claims to offer a “managed service where, unlike other domain names, entitlement to the .ie name is established and cybersquatting is eliminated.”
 

grandad

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The whole thing is ridiculous. The word 'porn' is not offensive, nor is the word 'pornography'. Both words are collective nouns that describe something that is offensive. By the same token you would have to ban the words 'curse', 'racism' or 'blasphemy'.

And there are cases where it would be in the public interest to have such a name registered. For example, a site dedicated to informing people how to avoid pornography on the Internet, where to report it, and so on.
 

grandad

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(I'm the Sex.ie/Porn.ie guy.)
You'd want to be careful how you phrase that :D

In my book, there are certain words that would cause offence, not necessarily to me, but to others. These would, in the main be slang words.

I can well understand a ban on registering these, as they would cause offense.

However, collective words that are in common and normal usage should be allowable. 'Pornography' [or 'porn'] is a collective noun and in itself is harmless. It is what it describes that is offensive.

I cannot imagine a bishop having problems in giving a sermon on the evils of porn from the pulpit, and I doubt that the congregation would take offense at the word in that context.

Similarly there are regular news items about Mr [or Judge!] X being found with pornographic images on his computer. Do the public take offence at the word 'pornographic' in this context? No.

And 'porn' is just an abbreviation of the word 'pornography'.

Similarly, 'sex' is a word describing gender. There is nothing 'dirty' about it except in the mind of the beholder.

Maybe they all just have dirty, perverted minds over at the IEDR?
 

mneylon

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The problem is that they haven't implemented a blocklist like other ccTLDs. Instead they chose to either reject applications or list domains as being registered to the IEDR.

The spirit of the rule isn't that offensive - I can understand to a degree what they were trying to do with it, however the wording is nuts
 

wheres me jumpa

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I may have found a good test of the wording of this rule. Is it possible to attempt to register this domain without providing any CRO information?
 

mneylon

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I may have found a good test of the wording of this rule. Is it possible to attempt to register this domain without providing any CRO information?
Yes. but if the IEDR feel that the domain name requires a CRO number you'll be back to square one :)
 

philipsento

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wow blacknight why are you removing my benign postings

can understand ,i have postedbto benign postinging and he has removed them,,sad
 

mneylon

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I just noticed sexualviolence.ie was allowed.

Weird.
Look who it's registered to:
domain: sexualviolence.ie
descr: Cork Rape Crisis Centre Ltd
descr: Body Corporate (Ltd,PLC,Company)
descr: Discretionary Name
 

dude

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Sure.

But I thought the IEDR were supposed to exclude words which are "offensive or contrary to public policy or generally accepted principles of morality".

Personally I find sexual violence sickening. Much more sickening than pornography...
 
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