Irish SEO,  Marketing & Webmaster Discussion

 

Which SSL?

This is a discussion on Which SSL? within the Webmaster Discussion forums, part of the Webmaster Help category; Anyone have any views on particular SSL vendors? In particular, whether the better known badges and HTTPS vendors have positive ...


Go Back   Irish SEO, Marketing & Webmaster Discussion > Webmaster Help > Webmaster Discussion

Register Forum Rules FAQDonate Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Notices

Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 08:38 AM
RedCardinal's Avatar
Richard Hearne
Recent Blog:
[CaRP] XML error: Invalid character at line 1108
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 951
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
RedCardinal is a splendid one to beholdRedCardinal is a splendid one to beholdRedCardinal is a splendid one to beholdRedCardinal is a splendid one to beholdRedCardinal is a splendid one to beholdRedCardinal is a splendid one to beholdRedCardinal is a splendid one to behold
Default Which SSL?

Anyone have any views on particular SSL vendors?

In particular, whether the better known badges and HTTPS vendors have positive effects on buyers perception of the company? Site in question is aimed at Irish market.

Was looking at Verisign, but they seem to have become expensive since last I looked (a while ago). Also looking at Thawte.

Thanks in advance
Richard
__________________
Search Engine Optimisation - Red Cardinal Internet Marketing
Internet Consultant Ireland | Search Engine Optimisation Services
Catering Company Dublin - My sister's handmade canape company!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 09:14 AM
blacknight's Avatar
Web Slave
Recent Blog:
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 6,519
blacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via ICQ to blacknight Send a message via AIM to blacknight Send a message via MSN to blacknight
Default

A few years ago it would have made a bigger difference, as some of the smaller CAs were not in the browsers.
These days there's hardly any difference except price.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 11:28 AM
Frodo's Avatar
Ciaran Rooney - Weeno Ltd
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Posts: 359
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Frodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud of
Send a message via MSN to Frodo Send a message via Skype™ to Frodo
Default

When buying one recently we done a quick survey round the non-techie people in the office who would shop online. Two questions really, 1. when they buy things on line do the look for a security logo and 2. which of the below would trust the most.

I can't remember which one they all picked but it wasn't one of the front runners (Verisign, Thwate, etc) It was the most polished looking one it was round and shiny very Web2.0 (wish i could remember who.)

I the end we bought one from Thwate because everyone answered the first question no. Most didn't even recognise Verisign let alone any of the others.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 11:30 AM
blacknight's Avatar
Web Slave
Recent Blog:
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 6,519
blacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via ICQ to blacknight Send a message via AIM to blacknight Send a message via MSN to blacknight
Default

There's no point in paying extra for a Thawte or Verisign cert.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 02:17 PM
Frodo's Avatar
Ciaran Rooney - Weeno Ltd
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Posts: 359
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Frodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud of
Send a message via MSN to Frodo Send a message via Skype™ to Frodo
Default

I short that was my point, we only bought Thwate because they had a sale or something on a two year cert.
Plus having a somewhat recognisable security logo on your site will help build trust. What do you think would our survey be accurate on a larger scale do people look for secured by logos any more?
I think its important on new sites. but not so much on established ones.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 02:18 PM
blacknight's Avatar
Web Slave
Recent Blog:
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 6,519
blacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via ICQ to blacknight Send a message via AIM to blacknight Send a message via MSN to blacknight
Default

A lot of the other CAs have nice "secured by" logos etc.,
Personally I prefer the alertsite logos which show that the server is actually secure from penetration
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 02:42 PM
Frodo's Avatar
Ciaran Rooney - Weeno Ltd
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Posts: 359
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Frodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud of
Send a message via MSN to Frodo Send a message via Skype™ to Frodo
Cool

True but with your ordinary Joe Soap not knowing one from the other I think they are more likely to trust one they may recognise especially with a new site. I mean anyone can make a nice logo but do Joe Soaps think like that or do they think if its nice it must be safe. The alert site one is good if people know what it means but odd's on they don't and this one may be better in that case. Would you trust a site with this?

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 02:48 PM
blacknight's Avatar
Web Slave
Recent Blog:
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 6,519
blacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via ICQ to blacknight Send a message via AIM to blacknight Send a message via MSN to blacknight
Default

While I can understand what you are getting at you are missing the entire point of the real site seals such as those offered by Alertsite. If you click on the site seal it will give you info.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 03:31 PM
Frodo's Avatar
Ciaran Rooney - Weeno Ltd
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Posts: 359
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Frodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud ofFrodo has much to be proud of
Send a message via MSN to Frodo Send a message via Skype™ to Frodo
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknight View Post
you are missing the entire point of the real site seals such as those offered by Alertsite. If you click on the site seal it will give you info.
I'm not missing the point, I know the Info they give but, our friend Joe doesn't nor does he even think to click on it. But then now i come to think about it if he's nervous about the site he just mite. Then on the filp side i can add a whole wealth of technical security information when you click on my logo.

I think that what matters to users is that this info is from a recognisable authority and the trouble is no-one really fits that bill. It would be good if some one like sitealert could fill the gap but a the moment not many people know of them. Verisign or Thwate are the closest I can think of to it even paypal could be, but i think joe soaps are generaly confused by it at first and with rates, etc, its not really an option.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2007, 03:32 PM
blacknight's Avatar
Web Slave
Recent Blog:
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 6,519
blacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to beholdblacknight is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via ICQ to blacknight Send a message via AIM to blacknight Send a message via MSN to blacknight
Default

Comodo is a recognisable authority
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ssl

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


Sponsored links

Paid On Results


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:40 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.7.3, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Hosted in Ireland by Blacknight - Test your ISP |Irish Hosting Directory| Armchair.ie|Logo by Eden Web Design|Avatars by Afterglow |Latest Blog Entries | VPS HostingAd Management by RedTyger

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0