Google Public Service Search

meanoiano · #1 (**permalink**) 08-08-2006, 05:45 PM

Google Public Service Search
https://services.google.com/publicservice/login

I am having issues with "Googles Public Service Search" getting search results from within my Public Service website. (Sorry, but i do not have permission to post our URL's or use my work email address, you know how it is

)

www.domain1.ie, was our domain name for a few years and the GPSS was working perfectly.

We decided to rebrand [we only changed the logo, no structural or text changes] and use a new domain name [www.domain2.ie]. We switched over to a new domain [www.domain2.ie], and slowly but surely the search results started to trickle away from 120 odd, to 100, to 10 and now to 1 !!

I currently have both domain names pointing at one Hosting plan.
www.domain1.ie
www.domain2.ie

I am now only getting 1 page in the results and it is within a PDF !?!

I have been searching for a term that appears on all pages within the site.

I thought it might have something to do with the domain switch over (as nothing else has changed) so i contacted my hosting company to see if i made www.domain2.ie my primary domain name, would it help....

They tell me that that making www.domain2.ie the primary will have no impact on Google's search results. I asked them to do this for me anyway, as long as it does not have a negative effect - but in fairness, what could be worse ?

I submitted a sitemap.xml to Google, with all URL's pointing at www.domain2.ie, but this has made no difference what so ever.

Over the years on www.domain1.ie we have generated some valuable inbound links, and do not want to loose these, as www.domain2.ie has no inbound links.

This one has really got me, and Google have bascially told me they cant help.....

Has anyone come across anything like this in the past, specially with Googles Public Search Services ?

Can anyone offer any help ??

louie · #2 (**permalink**) 08-08-2006, 06:20 PM

Yes I came accross the same problem when i moved from .com to .ie so i have learned a valuable leason.

When i changed the website from asp to php, i kept the asp pages and add 301 redirect header (very important to be 301) and redirect to the new php pages. I was still at lost but not that much.

You should have kept both domain live and redirect from one to another using the 301 header, but might be too late now. Hope is not

blacknight · #3 (**permalink**) 08-08-2006, 06:30 PM

Doing a 301 redirect using mod_rewrite or similar would be a better solution:
http://www.irishwebmasterforum.com/s...d_rewrite.html

This will tell Google and other search engines that the content has moved permanently ie. it still exists, but not in the old location. That way you don't lose any of your existing links, as they are basically updated

The problem arises when you have multiple domains pointing at the same content and Google "thinks" that you are trying to spam the index. So if you tell it that they should all be 301ed to the main domain you can get around it.
We had a very similar issue when we revamped the company site a couple of years back. Thank God Tom in 2Bscene was able to get us sorted out!

meanoiano · #4 (**permalink**) 08-08-2006, 06:51 PM

Thank you both for your replies....

Both sites are still live.

I did come across the 301 redirect post, but have no idea what it is all about... i am very eager to know more...

When i Googled it i got...
How to Do a 301 Redirect {please do not laugh at where i found it, it wasnt me, it was Google ! - if all else fails blaim Google}

I.e. - use .htaccess...
redirect 301 /directory/file.html Domainame.com
*Note: The first part "/directory/file.html" is the location of the file being moved and the second part "http://www.domainame.com/directory/file.html" is where the file is being moved.

Does this mean i should do something like this....
redirect 301 index.html http://www.domain2.ie/index.html ?

If so, would all other files look after themselves ?

If i do this can i see the change in a browser ?

Thank again for the help !
Will check back in the morning !

blacknight · #5 (**permalink**) 08-08-2006, 07:02 PM

Something like:

Code:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} domain1.ie$
RewriteRule ^(.+) http://www.domain2.ie/$1 [L,R=301]

If your sites are hosted on a linux server using apache you would create a .htaccess file at upload it to the web root of domain1.

Basically what the rule says - line by line - is

Code:

RewriteEngine On

- let's use mod_rewrite to rewrite the URLs

Code:

RewriteBase /

- we should start in / ie. the root of the website. If you were just moving a subdirectory you would use:

Code:

RewriteBase /subdirectory

The next two lines are where the "magic" comes into play:

Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} domain1.ie$

this defines the actual rewrite rule conditions. It basically says that if the requested url has the string "domain1.ie" then the rewrite should happen

Code:

RewriteRule ^(.+) http://www.domain2.ie/$1 [L,R=301]

- this is the actual rule. It basically says that if the conditions are met from the previous lines then the request should be moved to the new domain2.ie and rewritten. The HTTP response code returned is 301 ie. moved permanently. A 302 would be moved temporarily.

In this scenario if you request http://www.domain1.ie/something/somefile.html, then apache will "push" the browser (or spider) to the new domain seamlessly http://www.domain2.ie/something/somefile.html

I hope that all makes sense

meanoiano · #6 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 05:59 PM

I did as you suggested and am very eager to see a (POSITIVE) result !!

Thanks again !

blacknight · #7 (**permalink**) 09-08-2006, 06:15 PM

Let us know how you get on

meanoiano · #8 (**permalink**) 10-08-2006, 03:34 PM

I submitted my sitemap.xml to Google 22 hours ago and it was last downloaded 3 hours ago.

No errors or any other issues listed in Google Sitemaps.
Still no pages indexed.

blacknight · #9 (**permalink**) 10-08-2006, 04:27 PM

Give it 48 - 72 hours and make sure you validate your site so you can see more detailed stats

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